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>> the dysfunction. scott: what could that mean in the fight against terror? >> they could find a safe haven in some places in lebanon and act with impunity and try to recruit more youngsters, brainwash them, push them to commit more suicidal attacks. scott: a lebanese political analyst and activist said if this sounds familiar, it should. the so-called arab spring that began five years ago was bouldering austin is him -- optimism from tunisia to libya to egypt, denouncing leaders like gaddafi and mohamed morsi. without structures to build on, they collapsed, leaving a void for a worldwide terror caliphate.
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>> the u.s. has a major role in stabilizing the country. it is not moving forward. the actual administration is basically moving the way from the region. syria has a vacuum. yemen is a vacuum. libya is a vacuum. iraq is a vacuum. we have four countries that cease to exist. scott: even in a place like beirut, where they have learned to live with war for a very long time, what is happening right now is a new and worrisome challenge. >> if the ited states does not intervene, will lebanon be overtaken? >> you understand what i mean when i say the united states -- [indiscernible] all arab countries of the world
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scott: it is not exactly a linchpin holding the region together, but lebanon and its clear path between area -- syria and the mediterranean sea is a strategic partner. the u.s. has sent hundds of millions of dollars to the lebanese. >> most of our assistance and equipment is american, our training is american. we are dependent on american aid to sustain most equipment. scott: just as lebanon relies on the u.s., beirut has something to offer. >> what we can help with is human intelligence. the lebanesermy and the internal security forces have people who are detained. there was a possible suicide bomber who was detained in tripoli. scott: it is not the first time america has invested weapons and personnel in the country. this, 32 years ago, was the
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against u.s. marines since iwo jima when has below militants set off a truck bomb at the marine barracks, killing 241 americans. u.s. forces, about five months later, withdrew from that peacekeeping mission and the fighting continued for another seven years. more than one hundred thousand people died in that conflict. sharyl: is anyone suggesting the u.s. put troops back into lebanon to protect the border from isis? scott: no, despite the heavy fighting, they are holding strong. nevertheless, the white house said it is sending more resources to lebanon. we can only imagine that means more money and weapons. sharyl: interesting. thank you, scott thuman. in the days following the attacks, concern and rhetoric turned to the issue of refugees. in october, we reported on the potential for isis terrorists to travel into europe posing as refugees. this week, the majority of u.s. states have said they will not allow refugees from syria into their borders due to security concerns. but are syrian refugees the
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isis infiltrators? jim hansen is with the center for security policy, a former member of u.s. army special forces, and author of "cut down the black flag: a plan to defeat the islamic state." in terms of threats, i know that border patrol agents and fbi agents are very concerned about the southern border. jim: we have essentially got an unlocked, open door, and welcome mat down there. if i'm an isis guy who wants to come to the e ited states and wreak some havoc, i can go through the fbi screening that is not good enough, or i could walk in and talk to nobody. if i'm looking at that, i know which one is the easier of the two and that should scare americans. there is no security down there. sharyl: are there current threats because of that and other factors that exist in the united states? we hear about pockets of refugees that may be radicalized. jim: if you look at minneapolis,
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dearborn have large muslim migrant populations that have not assimilated and then you look at boston, the brothers who blew up the boston marathon and killed a bunch of americans, came in as kids of asylumees. they were not refugees, but pretty close to the same thing. they went to a mosque in the boston area that had 12 jihadis associated with it. people who have been arrested for terror financing or actually killed americans in terror acts. sharyl: i think if you askeded people w wt is our policy, what is our strategy, they would not be very clear on it. things seem to be evolving. what would you say it is? jim: i would say president obama is not very clear on our strategy to have one that he looks like he wants to win. at this point, he seems like he seems perfectly ok with kicking the can down the road. and letting somebody else dealing with. now the french are actually leading from theheront and bombing a bunch of targets that, for some reason, we could not find for the previous weeks? those fuel trucks were there, those command-and-control
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centers were there, we did not have the will to hit them. sharyl: thanks, jim hansen. appreciate it. coming up next on "full measure," this woman says fighting fires was easier than
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sharyl: aqim abdelhamid abaaoud sharyl: alicia dabney for to get one of the toughest jobs as a firefighter with the u.s. forest service. alicia: i was really lostst and upset at what i had done and the fact that i had committed a crime and what i had done to my family. sharyl: alicia dabney's crime was welfare fraud. she was a young mother of three living on an indian reservation and caring for her husband, who had been seriously injured in a suicide attempt. when she went back to work, she got caught collecting welfare he was no longer entitled to. she pled guilty and focused on a plan to pay the money back. alicia: firefighters work hard, they make good money. i have always wanted to be one. i'm going to sign up and push through it. sharyl: in 2010, she landed her dream job as a firefighter with
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the forest service under the u.s. department of agriculture. working fires like this one in new mexico, she was prepared for life or death situations. but she was unprepared for e hostility she faced back at the station in california are 35 covering 20 million acres in thth pacififisouthwest. alicia: there were three females. within a month, one had quit, one was ran out. pretty soon, it was only me. they started torturing me. this frat boy attitude and the bullying and being humiliated, being g lled fat, also beingng called a horror. it just wrote me up the wall. i could not take it. sharyl: do you think they were trying to be playful? >> no, it was part of the culture. sharyl: she did not know what
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violatioio and discriminationn dating back decades. corrective actions did not prevent her from getting singled out as a mexican, native american, and a woman. alicia: he had to force me to tell me -- to tell him when i started my menstrual period. sharyl: how did you report this? alicia: every month, i would go in there and i would coverery face with my hands andnday, i started my period. i would be humiliated. sharyl: why do you think he was doing that? alicia: i don't know his motive other than i think he is sick, to be honest. sharyl: she launched multiple equal opportunity employment claims and complained to the office of special counsel. and to the inspector general. she alleged that on the road, she was forced to urinate in view of her r le colleagues, that they got t portunities she was denied, that a supervisor once sat and bounced on her neck when she was bent over. she sasaid the offenders were sometimes disciplined, but not fired, and the bullying got worse.
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firefighter training conference where phone numbers were given out on a list. alicic: in the middle of t t night, i getet phone call. sharyl: she saved e recorded message. >> alicia, it is me. i'm ready to go. i'm in room 203. i'm totally reready, baby girl. give me a call b back. i hope you are allet like imim baby g gl. alalia: you could he a ton of guys laughing in the background. it is some type of ha ha ha. i don't know. not like this guy like to me and wanted to edhang out with me. he was trying to humiliate me, of course. sharyl: when you hear alicia dabney's story, what is your opinion? >> the management infrastructure is such thatatt encourages this fratatoy atmosphere. sharyl: michael mccray experienced this first hd of
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the u.s. department of agriculture. he exposed fraud worth millions of tax dollars in a program for poor communities. >> forged checks. outrageous stuff. we ended up going to the oig, the inspectororeneral. we notified the president of the commission. sharyl: instead of help,sa he says he got targeted for being a minority who also blew the whistle and lost his job. in 1995, he began filing a series of discrimination and retaliation claims, which by law must be investigated within 6 months. what was the outcome of your complaint? michael: my complaint has never been processed to completion. sharyl: from the 1990's? michael: from the 1990's. i had testimony, corroboration, documentation. i had a case that should not have taken 20 minutes and it has taken 20 years. sharyl: how big is this problem of long-standing backlogs on
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michael: it is tremendous. sharyl: in 2009, agriculture secretary tom bill sack acknowledged there were 3000 languishing civil rights complaints at usda and promised to change the culture. >> among the most intractable challenges facing the new secretary of agriculture is the intolerable and inexcusable state of civil rights in usda's agricultural programs and for usda employees. discriminationn any form will not be tolerated in this department. sharyl: bubut two years after that testimony, dabney says her situation was tolerated. a coalition of minority employees provided the director with -- the secretary with accounts from minorities and they even tried writing his wife, mrs. obama, and others. they hoped the women might be moved to act.
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the coalition said administration officials promised help, but the abuses continued. just a few months later came with dabney says was her lowest point with the forest service, in august 2011. she was attending a training conference when a supervisor asked to borrow work supplies at the hotel. alicia: i knocked on the door and he opens it and he just grabs me in a chokehold and flings me on the bed. i'm literally just scared. i did not know what he was doing. he starts to say, let's just cuddle, let's hang out, let's together. i was like, no you are my boss, please don't do this right now. he just kept getting tighter and tighter. i started saying please, please don't do this to me right now. i had to talk him down, reminding him, you're my boss, you don't want to do this to be right now, please let go of me. when i started crying, he finally let go of me. sharyl: she says she reported the incident to her supervisor and multiple investigative
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bodies, but suffered more reprisal. it turns out the problems with discrimination complaints go to high levels of the department of agriculture. that is according to a recent investation by a federal watchdog agency, the office of special counsel. it found hundreds of claims filed against senior managers in the very division that is supposed to enforce civil rights laws. the department of agriculture office of the assistant secretary for civil rights. what is more, from 2010 through 2013, 81% of complaints filed against usda senior managers were not acted on in a timely manner. the usda told us it has fixed that particular problem. the obama administration denied our interview request, but they said the agency inrited serious issues. over the past six years, we have corrected errors, learn from mimiakes, and charted a stronger path for the future where all americans are treated with
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dignity and respect. mcray has filed a class-action lawsuit on behalf of the 3000 people whose discrimination claims remained unprocessed in 2009. michael: there is no accountability. even in cases where discrimination has been proven. if you are a manager, you don't even have to pay for your defense. th are going to be the agency attorneys that are going to be your attorneys. sharyl: if there are any fines? alicia:michael: the justice department pays. sharyl: so the taxpayer pays. michael: absolutely. from the manager's point of view, there is zero accountability and zero cost. sharyl: as for daphne, the department of agriculture admitted no fault but paid her a confidential settlement that includes -- included the alleged hotel assault with the condition she never work there again. michael: i think it is especially corrosive for somebody like alicia dabney, who was on the front line in harms way. it is bad enough if you are on a desk job. people are playing with you and
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can die. alicia: i don't know how to get justice other than letting america know, letting people know that this is what happened to me but it does not have to happen to others. sharyl: she has repaid the money she stole from the w wfare fraud and a judge wiped d e conviction from a record. she still lives on the indian reservation with her husband and three children and is unemployed. ahead on "full measure," it is
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sharyl: terrorism and the islamic state are the most important issues facing the country right now according to the latest bloomberg national politics poll after the paris terror attacks. national s surity is also dominating tk on the campaign trail. in case you missed it, our "campaign incredible" brings you
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the week in about 60 seconds. >> that is what this is about. this is the war of our time. >> we have got to be calm, but not stupid. >> as president, i would givee the mission to the pentagon and ask them what they need to accomplish the mission. >> they could be isis, they could be anybody. what is our president doing? is he insane? >> folks wt to pop off and have opinions about whatat they think they would do, present a specific plan. >> mr. president, you want to insult me, you can do it overseas, you can do it in turkey, in foreign countries. mr. president, come back and insult me to my face. >> we cannot act as though we arshutting the doors to people in need without undermining who we are as americans and the sharyl: it is "follow the money." if the anticicon the campaign
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you, how about this? our government is using our tax dollars to pay for foreign kids to attend u.s. space camp. senator paul: we spent $2,000 last year inviting 24 kids from kistan to go to spacaccamp in alabama. we borrow money from china to send it to pakistan. it is crazy, it is ridiculous, and it should stop. sharyl: senator rand paul went ballistic over a state department program to pay for pakistani students to pay for cash to attend -- to attend space camp to promote their english language skills. since in space no one can hear you scream or speaeaenglish, it -- the paid it to her included a trip to dollywo and a visit to the nation's capital. that was just one example of what he says is an astronomical waste of your tax money. sen. paul: we spent $300,000 last year studying whether or
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sexually promiscuous on cocaine. we spent $700,0000studying -- several hundred thousand dollars studying whether or not we can relieve stress in vietnamese villagers by having them wch american television reruns. sharyl: senator rand paul is a frequent critic of government waste and his website publishes a waste report dedicated to exposing outrageous government spending. still ahead, taking a a and
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a walk in the park. sharyl: in these last dozen days, we have seen new horrors and are facing the recurring fears of new terror threats. many people are showing strength and even defiance. sharyl: in london, la marseillaise became the national anthem for a night at a soccer match that showed no rivalries. in washington, being a tourist meant making a stand after a threat by isis to strike at the capital. >> we have got to let the whole world know that we are going to walk as free people. no matter what anyone tries to do. >> being afraid is what they want. it is not going to put me off. coming to the wonderful land of america, the land of a free. >> why but i be terrorized? i'm here. i am free. whatever is going to happen is going to happen.
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i'm not going to worry about it. i'm not going to worry about those nut jobs. sharyl: thanks for watching. that's it for this week. i'm sharyl attkisson. until next time, we will be searching for moreretories that
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